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		<title>By: brightfeather</title>
		<link>http://cjlevinson.com/2007/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-6449</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess you could say I&#039;m part of the revival of Winter Solstice movement that occurred in the 1980&#039;s.

Winter Solstice is one of the most ancient celebrations found the world over. In fact, this traditional mid-winter celebration was usurped by early christians when their Roman masters renamed it &quot;Christmas&quot;. And we all witnessed it evolving into a commercialized nightmare bound up in pseudo-religious trappings.

In the early 1980&#039;s my friends and I replaced commercialized christmas with Winter Solstice celebrations. We eat, sing, dance, hug and kiss, recount the events of the past year. make plans for the new one and wish each other well.  The food is a to-die-for ethic smorgasbord. It includes vegan, ovo-lacto vegetarian foods as well as the traditional roasted dead bird.

Following that on christmas day we &quot;pagans&quot; become the kitchen and clean-up crew for a huge all inclusive community meal, sing-along and dance.

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: That&#039;s interesting. I know a few people here who observe Winter Solstice, but it&#039;s obviously different for us as it occurs on June 20 or 21, so it doesn&#039;t get mixed up with religious festivities. They find it empowering and spiritually uplifting, particularly rekindling the lifestyle we used to follow centuries ago.

Your celebrations sound very like the spirit of the season I connect with; being together, sharing a meal, planning for the new year... the meal sounds like a more balanced reflection of modern society as well than what we seem to manage. Many people here still insist on a hot roast, which hardly matches our climate. If Christmas is more for children anyway, adults can probably separate themselves from it more easily than they think.

I remember reading John Grisham&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Skipping Christmas&lt;/em&gt; a few years ago. That was interesting, but I thought the message (their &quot;rediscovering&quot; Christmas) at the end ruined it. I&#039;d love to see a more adult commentary but I doubt it exists. Maybe I&#039;ll have to write it. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you could say I&#8217;m part of the revival of Winter Solstice movement that occurred in the 1980&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Winter Solstice is one of the most ancient celebrations found the world over. In fact, this traditional mid-winter celebration was usurped by early christians when their Roman masters renamed it &#8220;Christmas&#8221;. And we all witnessed it evolving into a commercialized nightmare bound up in pseudo-religious trappings.</p>
<p>In the early 1980&#8242;s my friends and I replaced commercialized christmas with Winter Solstice celebrations. We eat, sing, dance, hug and kiss, recount the events of the past year. make plans for the new one and wish each other well.  The food is a to-die-for ethic smorgasbord. It includes vegan, ovo-lacto vegetarian foods as well as the traditional roasted dead bird.</p>
<p>Following that on christmas day we &#8220;pagans&#8221; become the kitchen and clean-up crew for a huge all inclusive community meal, sing-along and dance.</p>
<p><strong>CJ: That&#8217;s interesting. I know a few people here who observe Winter Solstice, but it&#8217;s obviously different for us as it occurs on June 20 or 21, so it doesn&#8217;t get mixed up with religious festivities. They find it empowering and spiritually uplifting, particularly rekindling the lifestyle we used to follow centuries ago.</p>
<p>Your celebrations sound very like the spirit of the season I connect with; being together, sharing a meal, planning for the new year&#8230; the meal sounds like a more balanced reflection of modern society as well than what we seem to manage. Many people here still insist on a hot roast, which hardly matches our climate. If Christmas is more for children anyway, adults can probably separate themselves from it more easily than they think.</p>
<p>I remember reading John Grisham&#8217;s <em>Skipping Christmas</em> a few years ago. That was interesting, but I thought the message (their &#8220;rediscovering&#8221; Christmas) at the end ruined it. I&#8217;d love to see a more adult commentary but I doubt it exists. Maybe I&#8217;ll have to write it. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: museditions</title>
		<link>http://cjlevinson.com/2007/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-6448</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked this post, cj.  I tend to acknowlege several different winter holidays, as I have a multi-cultural family.
/nod to raincoaster--Why would I want to grouch during anyone&#039;s holiday when they are experiencing joy?
In several places I have lived, community centers and religious organizations have held potluck dinners on Christmas day.  If one is feeling alone, it&#039;s a wonderful way to share, and maybe help others.  We just have to get up the courage to attend!

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Thanks, Muse; I thought I&#039;d get in early before everyone starts their Xmas posts! ;) Some of my best friends are Jewish, so we always acknowledge Hanukkah, and they do Christmas... I think it&#039;s important that we recognise different holidays and faiths, to pay people people the same respect they show us.

I agree with you too, why would we want to spoil what someone is feeling? Sometimes people can take the holidays too seriously, but don&#039;t take away their joy. You can&#039;t ever give it back.

Quite a few shelters here provide homeless people with meals on Christmas day, and I know some community centres as well which do the same thing for people who are alone or are tourists and expats. I&#039;d like to help at some stage myself; I think it&#039;d be a nice way to spend Christmas.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this post, cj.  I tend to acknowlege several different winter holidays, as I have a multi-cultural family.<br />
/nod to raincoaster&#8211;Why would I want to grouch during anyone&#8217;s holiday when they are experiencing joy?<br />
In several places I have lived, community centers and religious organizations have held potluck dinners on Christmas day.  If one is feeling alone, it&#8217;s a wonderful way to share, and maybe help others.  We just have to get up the courage to attend!</p>
<p><strong>CJ: Thanks, Muse; I thought I&#8217;d get in early before everyone starts their Xmas posts! <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Some of my best friends are Jewish, so we always acknowledge Hanukkah, and they do Christmas&#8230; I think it&#8217;s important that we recognise different holidays and faiths, to pay people people the same respect they show us.</p>
<p>I agree with you too, why would we want to spoil what someone is feeling? Sometimes people can take the holidays too seriously, but don&#8217;t take away their joy. You can&#8217;t ever give it back.</p>
<p>Quite a few shelters here provide homeless people with meals on Christmas day, and I know some community centres as well which do the same thing for people who are alone or are tourists and expats. I&#8217;d like to help at some stage myself; I think it&#8217;d be a nice way to spend Christmas.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: ellaella</title>
		<link>http://cjlevinson.com/2007/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-6445</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t aware of Global Giving - thanks for the link. There are some really worthy programs.

Suicides increase at Christmastime in the US too. I know a few people who get seriously blue; they seem to think they have to live up to some idealized perfect Christmas which, of course, doesn&#039;t exist.

Happy Holidays, cj!

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: I only heard about Global Giving a little while ago myself, but it&#039;s great that word&#039;s getting out. &lt;a href=&quot;http://kiva.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kiva.org&lt;/a&gt; is another interesting site too. I forgot to mention it earlier. :?

Some of my family take Christmas very seriously; they want everything to be perfect, and of course something always goes wrong and they get very upset. I actually don&#039;t like it when everything&#039;s planned, you don&#039;t get the same emotion... we&#039;ll see how we go this year.

Happy Holidays to you too, ella! And best wishes for the New Year. :)&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware of Global Giving &#8211; thanks for the link. There are some really worthy programs.</p>
<p>Suicides increase at Christmastime in the US too. I know a few people who get seriously blue; they seem to think they have to live up to some idealized perfect Christmas which, of course, doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays, cj!</p>
<p><strong>CJ: I only heard about Global Giving a little while ago myself, but it&#8217;s great that word&#8217;s getting out. <a href="http://kiva.org/" rel="nofollow">Kiva.org</a> is another interesting site too. I forgot to mention it earlier. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some of my family take Christmas very seriously; they want everything to be perfect, and of course something always goes wrong and they get very upset. I actually don&#8217;t like it when everything&#8217;s planned, you don&#8217;t get the same emotion&#8230; we&#8217;ll see how we go this year.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays to you too, ella! And best wishes for the New Year. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Colourful Vision</title>
		<link>http://cjlevinson.com/2007/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-6443</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CJ is true though that the rate of suicides increases around that time anyway it does in Canada...The commercialism thing is probably of  the reasons why some people get so depressed over Xmas...Many are alone and don&#039;t have the money to enjoy the festive like everyone else...I have had once spent Xmas in Egypt...It wasn&#039;t commercialized like in others countries and it was like an ordinary day, we celebrated it a bit as we were Canadians, Aussies and British people who are used to make a big fuss over it.. But, I will lie to u saying that I don&#039;t enjoy some Xmas magical aspects like the snow and the decoration...We had a big snow storm yesterday and I really felt the &#039;&#039;magic&#039;&#039; of having a &#039;&#039;White Xmass&#039;&#039;.....

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: You&#039;re right, CV, I&#039;ve been thinking about the darker side of the season recently as well... the suicide rate increases here also, and definitely many people become depressed when they&#039;re alone or remembering people who have passed... it&#039;s important that we don&#039;t forget them or fail to recognise the signs, because isn&#039;t that what the season is really about, being there for other people, and helping those we love?

It&#039;s interesting how we celebrate Christmas too... my family lived in England for a few years when I was younger and the excitement there with seeing snow is something I&#039;ll never forget. Here it&#039;s so different... we love a warm day so we can spend it on the beach and have a barbeque, and it&#039;d be unthinkable for a lot of us to have a roast in 33 degree heat! But the magic is still there, even though we celebrate it so differently. I&#039;d love to see a white Christmas again, though; maybe one year I&#039;ll manage it. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ is true though that the rate of suicides increases around that time anyway it does in Canada&#8230;The commercialism thing is probably of  the reasons why some people get so depressed over Xmas&#8230;Many are alone and don&#8217;t have the money to enjoy the festive like everyone else&#8230;I have had once spent Xmas in Egypt&#8230;It wasn&#8217;t commercialized like in others countries and it was like an ordinary day, we celebrated it a bit as we were Canadians, Aussies and British people who are used to make a big fuss over it.. But, I will lie to u saying that I don&#8217;t enjoy some Xmas magical aspects like the snow and the decoration&#8230;We had a big snow storm yesterday and I really felt the &#8221;magic&#8221; of having a &#8221;White Xmass&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p><strong>CJ: You&#8217;re right, CV, I&#8217;ve been thinking about the darker side of the season recently as well&#8230; the suicide rate increases here also, and definitely many people become depressed when they&#8217;re alone or remembering people who have passed&#8230; it&#8217;s important that we don&#8217;t forget them or fail to recognise the signs, because isn&#8217;t that what the season is really about, being there for other people, and helping those we love?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how we celebrate Christmas too&#8230; my family lived in England for a few years when I was younger and the excitement there with seeing snow is something I&#8217;ll never forget. Here it&#8217;s so different&#8230; we love a warm day so we can spend it on the beach and have a barbeque, and it&#8217;d be unthinkable for a lot of us to have a roast in 33 degree heat! But the magic is still there, even though we celebrate it so differently. I&#8217;d love to see a white Christmas again, though; maybe one year I&#8217;ll manage it. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CJ - thanks for the shout - out.  If people are looking for ways to give interesting gifts they can also buy gift certificates and gift cards that allow people to choose the project they want to support.
Cheers,
Donna @ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalgiving.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GlobalGiving&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;CJ: Hi Donna, thanks for stopping by. I&#039;ll definitely be keeping gift certificates in mind for a few people as well. ;)&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ &#8211; thanks for the shout &#8211; out.  If people are looking for ways to give interesting gifts they can also buy gift certificates and gift cards that allow people to choose the project they want to support.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Donna @ <a href="http://www.globalgiving.com" rel="nofollow">GlobalGiving</a></p>
<p><strong>CJ: Hi Donna, thanks for stopping by. I&#8217;ll definitely be keeping gift certificates in mind for a few people as well. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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